2 Timothy 4:13-15

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13 When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, and my scrolls, especially the parchments. 14 Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done. 15 You too should be on your guard against him, because he strongly opposed our message.

8 responses to “2 Timothy 4:13-15

  1. I am kinda confused with verse 13 how it says “When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, and my scrolls, especially the parchments”… i kinda don’t know if it is telling us to bring those thing or to someone else???

    But verse 14 is really speaking to me, i like how it says “..The Lord will repay him for what he has done”. I like it cause it talks about how what ever you have done you will get what you had put into it wether it be nothing and not be the work of God, or be something and be the work of God, you are going to reap what you sow!!

  2. Most likely the only verse that i might get is verse 15 when it says “You too should be on your guard against him, because he strongly opposed our message.” I think it is talking about how we need to be ready for the people that might come and try to stear us in the wrong direction and we also need to be on the look out for the people that might not like that we are worshippers of God. I dunno if that made any since but let me know if it didnt…

  3. Ok… Well. You guys really need to start reading things and first think “what did it mean to the people in that historical context?” ask yourself who wrote this, what was going on in his life, who did he write it to, first find out as much as you can about what it meant to THOSE people at THAT time. only when we understand that meaning can we start relating meaning to our own life. I know that this is the stuff that Ronnie is going to begin teaching on Wednesday nights and I encourage you all to really pay attention because it will really help you understand what the Bible is actually saying.

  4. one more thing.. I understand that you guys are really trying to think deep and figure out what it means to us now (and I applaud your efforts). But maybe in these blogs start thinking deep by making comments about what it meant to THOSE people in THEIR time.

  5. well, basically this was a letter to Timothy. Yes it is a part of the Bible, but it was originally a letter from someone to someone. So, Paul wanted Tim to bring him something he had forgotten. Yes, Paul was a great apostle, a forerunner in the church, but he was still just a man, and so thought about and talked about things that were concerned with just living his physical life. Every word he spoke was not straight from the mouth of God, sometimes he just talked to his friends. I think sometimes we are intimidated by what it means to be following after God with our whole hearts, like we should just hole ourselves up like a monk and spend 8 hours a day on our knees praying on stone floors. But God knows that we are just human, and that there are parts of our lives that dont necessarily have to be super-spiritual. The trick is to not let these parts control or define us, to keep Christ as the center, and never forget Who it is that is our hope, strength, and life.

  6. Paul is a great example to his protege here when he shows how to handle people that harm you. He says that this dude did him great harm, and then his next thought is, oh well, God will take care of him. His next words are to warn his brother, not to lament his own suffering. This is a sign of Chrstian maturity and selflessness.

  7. the metalworker—the harm that Paul was referring to was this guy was going around speaking evil and trying to ruin Paul’s character and reputation…which we read, he did have some effects on some people….But Paul is teaching us here, no matter what someone does to us or our character, dont seek revenge, let God be God in the circumstance…I liked how the KJV worded this passage—He said let the Lord Reward him according to his works—great way to show us that we all will reap rewards for our behavior, it could be good and it could be bad…but either way it is a reward—

  8. Verse 14 I like because it says The Lord will repay with what he has done. People who sin think its no big deal I can just ask for forgiveness. But you can’t keep thinking you can ask for forgiveness because that shows you aren’t learning from your mistakes. So God deals with that in your life and you may not like the punishment He choses for you, but later on down the road you’ll look back and thank Him for that because you have learned from it.

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