John 3:8-11 2 Corinthians 7

8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.” 9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked. 10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.  NIV

 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” 9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.  NKJV

6 responses to “John 3:8-11

  1. vs 8 is interesting in light of the question of free will. Gill was a staunch Calvinist and when studying this verse in his commentary it gives it a new perspective. The Spirit is like the wind in that: (1) You can see His effect when He moves (2) You don’t know where he came from or where He will visit next (3) You can do nothing to keep Him from moving or cause Him to move. Very compelling when looked at in the light of predestination.

    vs 9. The natural response of the unregenerate man to the things of God. They have no capacity to understand.

    vs 10. Even though Nick was a teacher of the teachers, or “master”, he still could not understand the things of God without the Spirit.

    vs 11 is a reference to John the Baptist and Christ. Under Levitical law, witnesses in a preceeding must both see and know about the event. He is establishing their credentials to be witnesses to the Deity of Christ and the truth of the message, yet the Jews still did not believe.

  2. When i read this verse it made me think that “the wind” and “The spirit” are almost the same thing. the sp[irit like the wind blows and falls upon us whenever it pleases. God sends it to us when he wants like i think he makes the wind blows too.

    the latter verses are going back to the thing about seeing is believing but God forbid they dont see it then they cant believe. even isreals teachers. but maybe we will all see one day and it will let us all believe.

    sorry if i rambled. it has been a long day and im very tired. but Always got to do some blogging .lol.

  3. I really like what Rick said about how: You can see His effect when He moves. Any time God is active in any thing there is always growth. What does the wind do when it blows to help things grow? Okay Ag 101 tells us that the wind picks seeds up and moves them to different locations…spreading growth so that when seeds fall they don’t land and fall to close to the trees already growing.

  4. Blogging Is Dying…ya know it never seems to fail that when a challenge is put forth the numbers actually drop…Is anyone really wanting to raise up a standard in their life, in COFY…

    Anywho, not much else to blog cuz BrIck from Chicago has nailed this passage pretty well without diving to deep into the predestination vs freewill debate.

  5. Got say I do like the way A to the M to the Y said it about the wind blowing and causing Growth…When the Spirit of God is moving in your life, He is helping you grow…Nice analogy…

  6. when the wind blows, you cant see the wind, you can only see the effects of the wind. You can feel the coolness when the wind blows on a hot, sweaty day. When you are riding a bike or driving in the car with the windows down, you can feel the wind rushing by cooling you. The Holy Spirit is the wind in our lives. You can feel Him moving in your life when you are in tune with Him.

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